Kurmancî
UNIT 20 · LESSON 41

Borîya dûdar · Past with present relevance

Use hatime, çûme and dîtiye in context.

By the end of this lessonForm affirmative and negative perfect forms and preserve ergative agreement with transitive verbs.

The idea

Borîya dûdar presents past events as relevant to the present or the current topic. After a consonant-final past stem, use -ime with ez, -iye with tu or singular ew, and -ine for plural subjects: ez hatime, tu hatiye, ew hatiye, em hatine. After a vowel-final stem, use -me, -ye, -ne: ez çûme, tu çûye, em çûne. Transitive verbs remain ergative: Min ew dîtiye; Wê ez dîtime.

See it in a sentence

Ez hatime.I have come.
Tu çûye.You have gone.
Em nehatine.We have not come.
Min ew dîtiye.I have seen him/her.
Wê ez dîtime.She has seen me.

Negate with ne-: nehatime, neçûme, nedîtiye. Tu and singular ew have the same perfect ending here. Depending on context, Turkish -miş or English “have/has done” can be useful translations, but this form does not mean that every event was merely heard from somebody else. Keep dûdar (hatime) distinct from the past perfect (hatibûm).

GRAMMAR IN DEPTH

Build it step by step

Useful before this lesson:
  1. Decide whether the past event is presented as relevant now or to the current topic.
  2. Check whether the past stem ends in a consonant or vowel before selecting the perfect ending.
  3. For a transitive verb, choose the ending from the object and keep the doer oblique.
Compare the forms
Person / objecthatinçûn
ezhatimeçûme
tuhatiyeçûye
ew (singular)hatiyeçûye
em / hûn / ew (plural)hatineçûne
negative with eznehatimeneçûme

Take a sentence apart

Wê

she: oblique doer

em

us: plural object

dît-ine

has seen: perfect agreeing with em

Connect it to English

English present perfect and Turkish -miş are useful approximations; Kurmanji use also depends on relevance to the topic.

A common trap

Incorrect: Min ew dîtime.

Correct: Min ew dîtiye.

With singular ew as object, use -iye, not the ending for ez.

Grammar reference: Thackston, §§ 20–20.1 · Perfect forms and their use